<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2574548759160660983.post8470899521873796923..comments</id><updated>2008-02-29T14:38:49.381-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on givens: Beauty and justice: up.</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://finluiniel.blogspot.com/feeds/8470899521873796923/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2574548759160660983/8470899521873796923/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://finluiniel.blogspot.com/2008/02/up.html'/><author><name>esn</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10968116340329129154</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>5</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2574548759160660983.post-1060251304030757528</id><published>2008-02-29T14:38:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-02-29T14:38:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>what i didn't address in this piece is what consti...</title><content type='html'>what i didn't address in this piece is what constitutes something "worth" valuing.  in fact i made a point of avoiding that question.  which is why i threw in the bit about organized crime.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;i have to get my thoughts together so  that i can address it properly.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;basically, you're asking, is there, a priori anything "worth" valuing?  or even more pointed...SHOULD something (Good, for example) be valued?  is there an imperative?  or is Good, for example, or anything else, simply "valuable" whether we value it or not. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;i haven't come up with any hearty answers yet, anything that will really stand up to the storm i spose.  i'm pretty ambivalent i guess. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;but what i tried to outline here, was the necessity of valuing to existing.  that quite literally "who am i?" is a pointless question if the question "what do i value?" has not, on some level, been asked and answered.  "who am i?", aside from i believe, being generally unanswerable, cannot provide us with ways to live.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2574548759160660983/8470899521873796923/comments/default/1060251304030757528'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2574548759160660983/8470899521873796923/comments/default/1060251304030757528'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://finluiniel.blogspot.com/2008/02/up.html?showComment=1204313880000#c1060251304030757528' title=''/><author><name>finluiniel</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10968116340329129154</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='16565613780249622027'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://finluiniel.blogspot.com/2008/02/up.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2574548759160660983.post-8470899521873796923' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2574548759160660983/posts/default/8470899521873796923' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2574548759160660983.post-7641902861485739542</id><published>2008-02-29T10:07:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-02-29T10:07:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>"Being rests on valuing."As Caitie noted, an empow...</title><content type='html'>"Being rests on valuing."&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;As Caitie noted, an empowering construct but also one that is demanding, a requirement for us to pause, reflect and consider.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Sartre's sensibility that we are what we do jumps right to the action that is too often automatic, entirely omitting a focus on our raison d’être.  Placing valuing as the prerequisite for being calls us out:  "Have a point of view!"&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Finally, a question:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Is the quest purely humanistic, the value for us only to assign?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Is it solopsistic, for me only to asssign?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Or is value VALUE as you have denoted good above as GOOD?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Is value inherent?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And if so, in what?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Daddy</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2574548759160660983/8470899521873796923/comments/default/7641902861485739542'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2574548759160660983/8470899521873796923/comments/default/7641902861485739542'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://finluiniel.blogspot.com/2008/02/up.html?showComment=1204297620000#c7641902861485739542' title=''/><author><name>gnorth</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06297779816738962735</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://finluiniel.blogspot.com/2008/02/up.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2574548759160660983.post-8470899521873796923' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2574548759160660983/posts/default/8470899521873796923' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2574548759160660983.post-290058788315717316</id><published>2008-02-28T17:03:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-02-28T17:03:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>rinny, of course i identify with this post...  you...</title><content type='html'>rinny, of course i identify with this post...  you've put it better than i ever have, i think...in saying that we are what we value....which has taken the shape of "we are 'how' we are and not 'what' we are," in my words...&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;they're not entirely the same...yours is perhaps more idealistic, and mine more observational....but they both express the element of identity as synonymous with the forces that permeate our moment-to-moment decisions...&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;and you make a good point, how and why should these forces of identity  be stripped away so that we may be 'objectively assessed'?  as you said, we cannot possibly be assessed in terms that are not first our own.  this is quite empowering.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;anyway, i have to run...see you this weekend.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2574548759160660983/8470899521873796923/comments/default/290058788315717316'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2574548759160660983/8470899521873796923/comments/default/290058788315717316'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://finluiniel.blogspot.com/2008/02/up.html?showComment=1204236180000#c290058788315717316' title=''/><author><name>caitie</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16214326106470109523</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://finluiniel.blogspot.com/2008/02/up.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2574548759160660983.post-8470899521873796923' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2574548759160660983/posts/default/8470899521873796923' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2574548759160660983.post-6069458123178854002</id><published>2008-02-28T12:24:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-02-28T12:24:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>well this week is pretty much booked.how's about m...</title><content type='html'>well this week is pretty much booked.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;how's about monday night?</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2574548759160660983/8470899521873796923/comments/default/6069458123178854002'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2574548759160660983/8470899521873796923/comments/default/6069458123178854002'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://finluiniel.blogspot.com/2008/02/up.html?showComment=1204219440000#c6069458123178854002' title=''/><author><name>finluiniel</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10968116340329129154</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='16565613780249622027'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://finluiniel.blogspot.com/2008/02/up.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2574548759160660983.post-8470899521873796923' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2574548759160660983/posts/default/8470899521873796923' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2574548759160660983.post-5365670354922135110</id><published>2008-02-27T23:10:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-02-27T23:10:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I am good...good to see you in the blogosphere...w...</title><content type='html'>I am good...good to see you in the blogosphere...when do we meet on terra firma?</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2574548759160660983/8470899521873796923/comments/default/5365670354922135110'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2574548759160660983/8470899521873796923/comments/default/5365670354922135110'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://finluiniel.blogspot.com/2008/02/up.html?showComment=1204171800000#c5365670354922135110' title=''/><author><name>Suman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17975030462145956838</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://finluiniel.blogspot.com/2008/02/up.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2574548759160660983.post-8470899521873796923' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2574548759160660983/posts/default/8470899521873796923' type='text/html'/></entry></feed>